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Russians hit multi-storey residential building in Dnipro city, destroy building section, people are under rubble Russia/Ukraine
https://www.pravda.com.ua/eng/news/2023/01/14/7384858/1.4k
u/Asleep_Physics657 Jan 14 '23 edited Jan 15 '23
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u/PixalPop Jan 14 '23
Is that a dead guy to the left? On the ground? Jesus
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u/HerrShimmler Jan 14 '23
Yes. By far not the goriest photo. It seems you haven't seen 3yo girl from Vinnytsya that was disemboweled and almost turn in half by the part of the ruzki missile debris.
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u/PrivetRebyata Jan 14 '23
I lived in Vinnytsya at the time. I remember hearing missiles flying over the city and then hearing explosions. I looked out the window and saw smoke in the distance where the missiles hit, it was crazy to go online and see what happened right there, at what I’m looking at out of my window
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u/PixalPop Jan 14 '23
I haven't and am not going to. Fuck.
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u/Mannowar1917 Jan 14 '23
I’ve seen the same photo, and I don’t think I will ever be able to forget it.
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u/Ze_Credible_Hulk_Ya Jan 15 '23
Yea, I'm done with this thread.
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u/aitch-zed Jan 15 '23
Don't look away, keep pressure on your government to send more help to Ukraine, this war is atrocious
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u/So6oring Jan 14 '23
Having a 3 y/o myself, this would fuck me up to see. Even reading it is turning my stomach. I'm not a violent man and have never even fought, but I'd happily watch a 50 caliber bullet open a window in Putin's head. Would save thousands of lives; very possibly thousands of children too.
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u/dzelectron Jan 14 '23
putin is too easy to put the blame on, but the reality is much more harsh. It's not putin who gives and executes the exact orders, it's not putin who is cheering up on the news of the dead ukrainian children in the comments, it's not putin who says nothing about this war, or even in some verbal or text form condemns it - but still fucking keeps funding it and support russian war machine with their actions.
Every. Fucking. Russian. Who does nothing to actually stop the war, overthrow totalitarian government, fight even for THEIR OWN COUNTRY'S FUTURE.
Is responsible.
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u/Lord_Frederick Jan 14 '23
The average Russian: I'm apolitical.
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u/Aoae Jan 14 '23
In my experience talking with pro Z people, the Russian psyche is that they are helpless to stop the tyrannical actions of their government. At the same time, they believe that Russian culture and the Russian imperial political system is the best in the world.
The contradiction is apparent. Either you (a Russian) are a helpless citizen of a despotic nation-state hurting others; or, your great culture has led you to do this and you are justifying it by your approval of the political system that your culture created. Russians must give up either the mindset of chauvinism or of helplessness, and people need to hold them accountable as such.
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u/TheNplus1 Jan 15 '23
Yeah, they do like to dance around concepts the way it suits them best. In reality they are a frustrated nation in search of lost glory (which they were told they once had). Putin is not a "bug", he's a "feature", that's why to this day he is still supported by the majority of the population. He "scratches that itch", their need to feel powerful and feared, that induced nationalism which serves as a substitution for the pride of actually achieving something.
I'm afraid that the Russians are a totally lost cause, no foreseeable number of generations could dilute the brainwashing (they've lived a century like sheep, nothing will change for the next century to come).
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u/Alex_9127 Jan 15 '23
Germany managed to overcome Hitler and become a prosperous country. As a Russian, we can overcome Putin and I am sure Putin will fall and we will too be a prosperous country. There are more adequate thinking people than you would realize, so I can see Russia finally getting the future she deserves.
Also thinking that Russians are perpetually fucked because of their history is no worse than Putin or Hitler, this is racism in its primal form
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u/hate_mail Jan 14 '23
Imagine the monster who ordered the bombing of a residential building....
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u/Kip29 Jan 14 '23
"Dude, are you really gonna bomb a residential building killing dozens of innocent civilians?"
"Are you really asking that to the guy who just a couple decades ago killed hundreds of his own Russian civilians bombing multiple apartment buildings?"
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u/I__LOVE__LSD Jan 14 '23
I don't think there's anyone in the world who has such a hard-on for killing Russians as Putin does. Stalin was the same. It seems to be a thing with Russian leaders.
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u/MarvinLazer Jan 14 '23
Tsar Nicholas II was the same. Dude thought of his massive armies the same way I thought of my Warhammer pieces when I was 15.
As horribly as he and his family died, people hated him quite rightly for the things he did.
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u/Ardalev Jan 14 '23
I'm willing to bet your 15yo self took better care of the minis than most Russian leadership ever took care of their own people
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u/BarbaraBarbierPie Jan 14 '23
Stalin was georgian
But all the "great" russian leaders killed millions maybe putin wants to be remember as one like them
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u/SoftBellyButton Jan 14 '23
He is gonna be remembered as the one who fell from the stairs while shitting himself.
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i learned a new term, its called fecal fall when you fall from the stairs and shit yourself.
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u/Conradfr Jan 14 '23
Stalin was not too concerned about killing Ukrainians either, cf the Holodomor.
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u/kaaz54 Jan 14 '23
Stalin was very concerned about killing Ukrainians, cf the Holodomor.
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u/Susan-stoHelit Jan 14 '23
I wouldn’t be asking that of Putin, we know what he is, but what about the people who did it at every step. people launching the missile, the ones who find the targeting information, the ones who defend and support the people launching the missile, the people who make all of this equipment. The people back home who support the war, or are simply silent. All of them are doing this.
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u/wightwarren19 Jan 14 '23
Klaus: “Are you really going to kill five people over $20?” Roger: “Are you asking this of the guy who just last week killed six people over $19?” Klaus: “oh yeah.”
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u/BigFish8 Jan 14 '23
I was told this happened a lot in world War 2. Going after morale of the people opposed to anything else. The guy in Germany, in charge of armament said the war could have ended much sooner if they went after the industrial areas. If someone well versed in ww2 history could chime in, that would be great. I was told this was talked about in Inside The Third Reich
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u/GreyLordQueekual Jan 14 '23
Gambling on the morale of the enemy is always exactly that, a gamble, you either brute force the population into subservience or you create a guerrilla war of extreme brutality. Attacking the industry of a nation on the otherhand takes away means and heavily demoralizes almost always.
The reality is that continuous war drives money into already deep pockets and controls your own population, exacting a victory in totality early into an effort is far messier after the fact for the leaders of that offensive. Frankly, most imperialists dont want the people they are conquering, just the land. They attack the people over the industry because their hope is to seize that industry regardless of how tactically stupid that is.
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u/medievalvelocipede Jan 14 '23
The guy in Germany, in charge of armament said the war could have ended much sooner if they went after the industrial areas. If someone well versed in ww2 history could chime in, that would be great.
Well yes and no. The allies bombed Ruhr plenty, but that only slowed down the Germans. What was effective was not carpet bombing but tactical bombing, of oil refineries and other critical infrastructure.
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u/dieortin Jan 14 '23
Oil refineries are industrial areas too. The oil industry is an industry after all.
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u/kfelovi Jan 14 '23
Not the first time: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Russian_apartment_bombings
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u/varennya Jan 14 '23
The whole world should see it. This is a deliberate blow. I am in the Kharkiv region, today there were three missile attacks on an energy facility in my town, which is two kilometers from my house. It's impossible to explain how scary it is. I can only roughly imagine the horror experienced by the people in this house.
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u/Berentidal Jan 14 '23
I'm pretty much sure they did it on purpose.
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u/ForkingBrusselSprout Jan 14 '23
I grew up in Dnipro and this is a massive residential neighborhood. It would take you hours and hours to walk around it. It could not have been on accident because where were they aiming otherwise? There are only houses, supermarkets, cinemas and all the rest is residential multi stories buildings.
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u/BarbaraBarbierPie Jan 14 '23
Looks to me like the Battle of Britain. Bombing civilians to demoralise them.
But as we know from years in the war on terror it only radicalised the people. And in case of Britain it made there fighting spirit stronger!
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u/spektre Jan 14 '23
It seems to be exactly it. Putin wants the Ukrainian populace to say "This is horrible, just give them what they want, we can't take the abuse anymore."
But if they give in to Putin, he will just keep grabbing more. I'm pretty sure Ukraine knows this.
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u/duglarri Jan 14 '23
Putin's offer to Ukrainians is not "surrender or die." It is "surrender AND die." Ukrainians know that the plan for them if Russia gets full control is basically what Russia did to the parts of Poland they took over in 1939. Where they killed about 10% of the population.
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u/BarbaraBarbierPie Jan 14 '23
The sad thing is. If there never been nukes in the world then there would be a world war immediately due to ww2 those were the same kind of aggressions as we see now. And I percent would advocate for a full scale war but we have nukes and russia has nukes and therefore the "Nobody moves or I shoot" rhetoric from putin shows its effect.
Sadly that's why many US Enemies try to get nukes so they aren't getting invaded and to a certain point can do thing like putin does now.
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u/say592 Jan 14 '23
I think in the coming years pretty much every country is going to have an extremely strong desire to get under a nuclear umbrella. The world has seen what happens when a nuclear power attacks a non nuclear power, and they know that no matter how much the rest of the world might want to help, their options are always going to be limited.
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u/AssassinAragorn Jan 14 '23
It looks like full denuclearization is even less likely at this point. A sheathed sword is the only thing that'll stop another sheathed sword, so long as people like Putin are around.
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u/duglarri Jan 14 '23
Notice that South Korea is talking about obtaining nukes now. A historic first for them.
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u/KuriousYellow Jan 14 '23
It is exactly this. It’s been part of the total strategy since the beginning of this phase. Attacks in Kyiv and elsewhere were similar. Russia wants the people to demand government to surrender.
In Dnipro, after these arrivals, the mayor gives remarks and goes back to work, and city workers scramble. The bus drivers, the engineers who work on water and electricity — they work all night without rest getting everything running again. It wears done in parts, which is what Russia wants also.
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u/Delphan_Galvan Jan 14 '23
It will be interesting what happens come Spring or Summer when Ukraine has Crimea under blockade. That's over a million Russian colonists who will then become "bargaining chips". That's also when Russia will get the most desperate.
I won't be surprised if the US and Canada hadn't moved a few more divisions worth of equipment (personnel can be sent quickly) to Germany and Poland by that point for "just in case".
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u/buggzy1234 Jan 14 '23
It did the same for Britain as it would for every country, especially Ukraine considering their past with Russia. It will just make them fight harder.
If you truly want to win by terror bombing, you have to quite literally kill everyone capable of fighting back. Because the survivors will always be that much more determined to beat your ass. And what do they have left to lose? Their homes, friends and families are gone. And those who aren’t gone will likely also want revenge. And those who aren’t capable of fighting back, the people who can will feel a need to protect. And they will with everything they have considering that’s all they have left.
This strategy of terrorising the population has never worked and it never will. You can’t scare people into submission by taking everything away from them, you just make them more determined fighters. Which makes me think that putin’s goal isn’t to win this war, but instead is to cause as much death and destruction possible. Either that or he’s completely lost all sense of logic and reasoning and all higher ups in Russia are in the same boat as putin is.
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u/duglarri Jan 14 '23
When they polled the population towards the end of WW2, British citizens were in favour of the bombing of Germany- except those areas that had actually been bombed in 1940. Those areas, people who had been bombed, were against.
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u/kamicosey Jan 14 '23
My wife’s best friend is from a neighboring building. She got some pretty gnarly pictures of it. What a shame. It’s so scary
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u/L1b3rtyPr1m3 Jan 14 '23
They have been doing since the start of the war.
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u/ForkingBrusselSprout Jan 14 '23
I know, I am aware. I don't know why I'm still trying to find some logic in what they do. There is none. Just pure evil. Just found out my friends are in icu.
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u/Strange_Camp_9714 Jan 14 '23
There is a video just after the attack. People hundreds of people are screaming for help
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u/ilovezam Jan 14 '23
Jesus Christ man.
Can someone help me understand what's the point of bombing civilians from a "my military is seriously trying to win" perspective? I guess Putin has completely lost his marbles but even then...
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u/say592 Jan 14 '23
Demoralize the civilian population to put pressure on the government to surrender. Hitler tried the same thing, very notably in Britain.
The reality is, unless the defending country is already losing pretty bad, this just galvanizes the population.
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u/Popingheads Jan 14 '23
stop dicking around, send mass amounts of tanks already.
Ukraine says they need them, we have 3,000 sitting in a warehouse doing nothing.
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u/Not_aplant Jan 14 '23
War crime trials better come after this war
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u/Irontwigg Jan 14 '23
I dont understand why the world should even wait for the war to end. Do something to stop these terrorists, before they do even more damage. How many more innocent people have to die before Russia is stopped?
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u/Rol3ino Jan 14 '23
What is a war crime trial going to do? It’s absolutely useless. So what if Putin is found guilty? Or all the other soldiers / generals etc? What’re you going to do to make them go to jail, invade Russia?
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u/GimpyGeek Jan 14 '23
If the cancer doesn't get him first, ugh. If it does though they better hold every one of his shihead enablers accountable too.
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u/Josh_The_Joker Jan 14 '23
War is awful as is, but to go after civilians over and over is horrendous. Russia will be seen as a terrorist state by an entirely new generation that had never witnessed it first hand before. To make it even worse, it’s not even on large scale missile strikes like this one that could (likely wrongly) be written off as a miss. But no, they go after civilians with small arms fire as well. Especially in the beginning, there were countless reports of civilians being shot in the back and worse.
We will not forget.
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u/Europpe Jan 14 '23
You say "we will not forget" but assuming you're not from central Europe it's rather possible that most of the people around you did forget what Russia did as SSSR. (they consider themselves heirs of the regime so it's still applicable even if technically it's not the same state.) Poles are a prime example of people who did not forget. They did bicker, they did argue about significant but stupid laws, they did press similar things to stop women controlling their bodies as USA did. But once Russia crossed Ukraine borders, they immediately took initiative in EU and did push hard to stop all and every affiliation w Russia they could. Same goes for some other countries from the region, but looking at the sentiment globally, the world has mostly forgotten what Russia did.
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u/Rubanski Jan 14 '23
It is so strange to see Hungary being kind of russophile? I mean they absolutely hated the SSSR, and because of their background in WW2 they weren't exactly best buddies with the Soviet union in general. I really don't understand how they aren't more like Poland in that regard, considering they are normally best buddies? Maybe someone can help me understand what is going on
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u/artemyavas Jan 15 '23
They voted for the wrong guy when he seemed to be OK, and now they don’t understand how they can get rid of him without bloody revolution, because he’s very powerful propagandist and autocrat who counterfeits elections again and again. Pretty Russian situation.
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u/ScienceFactsNumbers Jan 14 '23
This is what Putin offers the world: destruction and chaos.
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u/PHASENDREHER Jan 14 '23
The world should fight the climate change. But the Russian Mafia Boss wants to destroy the world. No pain is enough pain he should get.
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u/stocks-mostly-lower Jan 14 '23
The fucking brutality of these bastards is horrifying.
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u/Nnelg1990 Jan 14 '23
Sometimes I wonder if Russia is just masochistic and wants to be punished, because this action screams: Please give Ukraine tanks so we can get pummeled even more!
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u/de7uned Jan 14 '23
Was just there a few hours ago, still can't process it, a friends mom works in the clinic that is now a bunch of rubble, she's fine and it's her day off luckily
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u/ThePenIslands Jan 14 '23
Battle of Britain didn't break the Londoner's spirits either.
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u/mutantredoctopus Jan 14 '23
ATACMS to Ukraine.
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u/thobek Jan 15 '23
ATACMS
yikes I had to google that. Looks like a HIMARS on steroids. 190 mile range!
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u/mutantredoctopus Jan 15 '23
Yep!
Russia needs to know that if they fire missiles - Ukraine has the ability to hit the launch site right back. Whether it’s in Ukraine, Belarus or Russia itself.
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u/StainerIncognito Jan 14 '23
Ruzzia is a terrorist state. More weapons to Ukraine.
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u/digodk Jan 14 '23
Every time the west starts getting a cold feet on giving weapons to Ukraine Russia proudly goes on to add another reason to the list.
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u/AssassinAragorn Jan 14 '23
It's practically their MO at this point. They only know fear and violence.
Forcibly discourage Ukraine from being friendlier with the West? Ukraine shifts fully to the West after your intimidation and violence.
Stop other countries, notably those near you, from joining NATO? The countries apply to join NATO after your intimidation and violence.
Try to get sanctions eased or foreign aid to stop? Other countries are further emboldened to provide aid, and your plants/paid politicians in those countries glaringly stand out as traitors, after your latest acts of intimidation and violence.
Try to demoralize and cow Ukraine into surrender? Galvanize their resistance and morale even more because of your intimation and violence.
And finally, try to show off your strength and power to the world? Your acts of intimidation and violence to do so result in you becoming a laughingstock.
We can call this the "You get what you fucking deserve" principle.
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Stop saying Ruzzia. Put Russia. Keep it searchable for future generations. Make these horrors known forever.
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u/tunamelts2 Jan 14 '23
Remember when Russia claimed there was a humanitarian catastrophe in the Donbas and used that as justification for invasion and war? Pepperidge farm remembers
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u/unripenedboyparts Jan 14 '23
Pepperidge Farm remembers. Nabisco remembers. Hell, even the company that makes those gluten-free cauliflower chips remembers. Fuck the Kremlin.
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u/consci0usness Jan 14 '23
It's so obvious it's war crimes, so many war crimes. Just give the Ukrainians everything.
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u/goddamnzilla Jan 14 '23
this kind of war crime / terrorism is all russia is capable of. it's how they've fought since WWII... russia is a criminal shithole, and should be completely isolated. the federation needs to be dismantled, and the people need to be reeducated / deprogrammed. it's like north korea, but on a larger scale with more alcoholism.
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u/TheMagnuson Jan 14 '23
Time to officially and fully isolate Russia from the rest of the world. Full embargo and even a blockade of their ports. Remove as much as possible their ability to connect to the internet. Remove them from international banking systems. Seize their foreign assets.
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u/Tebasaki Jan 14 '23
After little p putin is gone, the rest of Russians for generations will live with this on their backs, hated by the rest of the world and seen as monsters.
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u/hyperfat Jan 14 '23
As first gen Russian in Us, and dad and nan almost on trains to camps in WW2, this is deplorable.
I've been crying for what, 400 days?
My Ukrainian friends have parents there. We can't get them out.
Putin can die in his own personal hell. Hopefully shortly from now.
I hope they preserve his body so tourists can mock him for decades. With a big gay rainbow on his grave. And pussy riot playing gigs in front of it.
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u/Cook_0612 Jan 14 '23
Just proves that Russia didn't sack Surovikin because the 'strategy of targeting civilians wasn't working', they sacked him because of internal politics. Surovikin was praised by Prighozhin/Kadyrov, representatives of Russia's far-right, which probably made Gerasimov/Shoigu, representatives of the military establishment, who the far-right are at war with, testy.
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u/chilu0222 Jan 14 '23
Every time Russia does something like this, people get shocked. Why?
are you forgetting that Yeltsin bombed the Chechnya republic in 1995.
Then Putin came and he organised Moscow apartment bombings then went ahead and bombed Chechnya to the GROUND. not only did he bomb people of Chechnya but he bombed RUSSIANS as well.
Putin does not care whether people die in a foreign country or people in Russia die.
The west saw this and went ahead and acted like he is a rational man.
They went ahead and made business to someone who has in power from 1999.
Do you people realise that if this was never started the west the very European countries would have continued to do business with Putin and taking care of this yachts like everything was normal.
They failed to see a monster leaving next to them for the past 20 years because they wanted CHEAP natural gas. Europe is Putin enabler!!!
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Jan 14 '23 edited Jan 14 '23
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They already had Stalin. People just forget him for some reason, while Hitlers name is on the top every time.
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u/emzex Jan 14 '23
The reason is, there was never a de-stalinification. Sure, Khrushchev freed many from the gulags. But the system was never properly denounced. Many archives are still closed. Some of the nomenklatura boomers are still in charge!
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u/_SpaceTimeContinuum Jan 14 '23
Fuck Russia and fuck every nation that continues to trade with it. Russia's biggest trading partners, China and India, deserve to be boycotted for continuing to fund Russia's war crimes.
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u/imnotmyselfactually Jan 14 '23
Oh yeah, and many international companies that still work in Russia, like Nestle, Auchan, Ikea. I think there's a list somewhere.
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u/New_littlepencil Jan 14 '23
1). Why all putin’s friends and their families are still living in US and Europe, have millions on their bank accounts and have elite private property while you discriminate average russians who just want to escape the regime and block their visas and bank cards ? 2). Why do you still supply police of putin and his regime with new equipment and millions of oil-dollars? 3). Why your governments don’t give enough weapons to Ukraine for making this war as long and exhausting as possible?
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u/j6all Jan 14 '23
War is hell. Pray that you never have to see it closer than this. Even winning is awful
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u/doriangreyfox Jan 14 '23
This article most likely shows the people behind these killings.
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u/Ukr03087 Jan 14 '23
Hey guys. If you are angry as I am, please donate to the Armed Forces of Ukraine. United24 charity initiative is a great legit way to do it.
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u/VAGINA_BLOODFART Jan 14 '23
My friend is there helping try to clear rubble and get to the civilians trapped inside. It's apparently not going great
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u/Bigbird_Elephant Jan 14 '23
How is this not a war crime?
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u/almosttape Jan 14 '23
It absolutely is. But will they be held accountable? Probably not.
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u/ParaMike46 Jan 14 '23
I’m sick to the bone of these barbaric attacks. Russians should be obliterated from Ukraine once and for all. Too many innocent lives are lost and city demolished to the ground
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u/protazoeanpotato Jan 14 '23
Russia needs to be classified as sponsor of state terrorism.
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u/NeedleworkerLoose695 Jan 14 '23
Absolutely not, they should be classified as a terrorist state. Anything less is a lie.
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u/Sensitive_Disk_3111 Jan 14 '23
What do you mean sponsor? Russian military is doing this, Russia is a terrorist state.
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u/TotalSpaceNut Jan 14 '23 edited Jan 14 '23 •
18 injured, people still under the ruins. Rescue operation is ongoing.
Before and after of hit building
Video of building
Rescuing people
Screaming from the ruble
More footage
Sun setting, so rescue will have to be performed at night
Some lucky people being rescued by crane
Update: Russian strike on Dnipro kills 5, injures 39, including 7 children
Ongoing rescue at night
Loudspeaker says "citizens who cannot move around on their own, come to the window, wave your hands".
Statement from Zelensky
Local residents are helping rescuers clear away the rubble
ru telegram lying that it was Ukraine's own air defense
russian reactions
Fuck you russia